Display related holdings for monographs only for the 773 $w relation and not for the 8xx $w relation
When filtering to a certain location via facets, you often get results from other locations too, which is unexpected from patrons perspective in many cases. This is caused by the current related records setting which is also taking locations with related records into account. The display is correct for analytical records without inventory (book chapters and articles), but not for the other monographical resources.
What we wish to achieve is the following:
When the record of a book chapter, journal issue or journal article (i.e. a record containing a 773 field with $w) is viewed in Primo, the holding of the record linked via 773 $w is displayed.
When records contain a series link (8xx $w) or a related record (76x/77x/78x $w - exception: 773), we do wish to display a link to the related record (via system number), but not the related holding.
Right now, the configuration does not offer the needed flexibility.
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Manu_Schwendener
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From Yael Shahar, 28.10.2025: "we are discussing it these days with Alma and will have an update soon"
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Bodil Wik
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Why the change from Under review to No status?
Kind regards
Bodil Wik -
Manu_Schwendener
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Most Alma votes by far.
(662; 2nd place has 421)
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Manu_Schwendener
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Dear Yael, your last update was over a year ago. Any news?
Kind regards
Manu -
Manu_Schwendener
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(A similar problem, with another cause https://ideas.exlibrisgroup.com/forums/308176-primo/suggestions/41985421-possibility-to-disactivate-related-link-to-physica )
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Manu_Schwendener
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Another example of how this problem messes up our catalog:
Publication format = Bilderbuch
https://basel.swisscovery.org/discovery/search?query=genre,contains,Bilderbuch,AND&tab=UBS&search_scope=UBS&vid=41SLSP_UBS:live&mfacet=genre,include,Bilderbuch,1&lang=en&mode=advanced&offset=0I only want to see the ones from a particular library ->
https://basel.swisscovery.org/discovery/search?query=genre,contains,Bilderbuch,AND&tab=UBS&search_scope=UBS&vid=41SLSP_UBS:live&facet=library,include,5504%E2%80%93112070590005504&mfacet=genre,include,Bilderbuch,1&lang=en&mode=advanced&offset=0But I get titles that UB Hauptbibliothek doesn't have, for example
https://basel.swisscovery.org/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma9948041300105504&context=L&vid=41SLSP_UBS:live&lang=en&search_scope=UBS&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=UBS&query=genre,contains,Bilderbuch,AND&facet=library,include,5504%E2%80%93112070590005504&mode=advanced&offset=0 -
Bodil Wik
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Dear Yael,
Here comes an attachement in order to show the problems we have at Uppsala university.
Best regards
Bodil Wik -
Fabiano
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Dear Yael,
I tried to document in the attached file some examples and use cases that would positively be impacted by this enhancement in my opinion.
Kind regards
Fabiano -
Manu_Schwendener
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> In which cases the relation is correct
Dear Yael
For the display and functions of Fulfillment / Getit and facets in Primo, only this example is correct
it has a MARC field 773 $w
773 0#$tPro Natura lokal Basel $g2015, Nr. 4, 31 S. $q2015/4/31 $gyr:2015 $gno:2015 $w(IDSBB)001400350DSV01
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All the other relations should only be visible under Details in the full record display. There they can be a link which leads to the other bib record, but no other function should be generated.
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Hi all,
In order to better understand the requirements here -
today the relation is used in Alma resource management, in Fulfillment calculations and also in the Primo GetIt and facets.
We would like to ask you where do you see this change impact and under which conditions. We would appreciate any examples and use cases. In which cases the relation is correct, and in which it doesn't.Thank you,
Yael. -
Manu_Schwendener
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Basel - UB Hauptbibliothek has this title.
'Show more locations' shows me
Basel - Uni Geschichtewho do NOT have this title.
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"Available at ... and other locations"
This is not true. Only "Basel - Uni Philosophie" has it.
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This is the only case where we want to show "Locations for related titles":
773 0#$tPro Natura lokal Basel $g2015, Nr. 4, 31 S. $q2015/4/31 $gyr:2015 $gno:2015 $w(IDSBB)001400350DSV01
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Manu_Schwendener
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Dear Yael
This is great to hear, thank you.
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Manu_Schwendener
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NERS 8781, open for voting now.
Please vote to make our catalog less frustrating for our patrons.
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Johanna Bucher
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Would be an important improvement!
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Bodil Wik
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Uppsala university also strongly supports this request. When relations for 830 $x generates related items in Primo, it gets very difficult for users to request the right material. There is no way to stop another item from the same series to be requested instead of the item bound with the item the user wants.
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Manu Schwendener commented
NERS 8161, round 2 open for voting now.
Please vote if you can, this would fix sevaral problems.
As stated earlier:
As long as this is not fixed, Primo VE just looks broken/unreliable for our patrons. -
Manu Schwendener commented
NERS 8161, open for voting now.
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Elisa Dell'Ambrogio commented
For the next round of voting the NERS ID is 8161
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Manu Schwendener commented
This also leads to wrong information being shown to the patrons.
'Available at ... and other locations'.
No, only one library in our IZ has the printed version.
This teaches our patrons that they can't trust what they see in our catalog.
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Manu Schwendener commented
NERS 7857, open for voting now