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  1. 15 votes
    2 comments  ·  Primo » Primo VE  ·  Admin →
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    I reported this as a defect for Primo managed by Back Office more than a year ago in March 2022, and the case is in Development since then.
    This is because the quicklinks also display in the Links section despite the configuration not including them.

    The data is <linktopdf> and <linktohtml>

    Production configuration under Views > 61UQ > Tile List > Full Display > Full Results > Links to display in full results
    Back Link
    Link to TOC
    Link to Abstract
    Link to Review
    Link to Price
    Link to Finding Aid
    Additional Link
    Link to Union Catalog
    lln02

  2. 4 votes
    2 comments  ·  Primo » Primo VE  ·  Admin →
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    We’ve used ‘Search collections’ as the consistent labelling because all of the options either have this initially, or have the option to expand to it with one click, per the November 2021 Release

    * The lobby search box is for everything --- yes, agreed.
    * The top-level collection search box is for the title of sub-collections in that area only --- this searches titles of child collections and items within the top-level collection in the initial query. I believe it’s quite common for sites to not have items directly within the top-level collection level when they also have child collections, but it can be seen as being done in the results split into section of Collections (x) and Items in the collection (y). Then there is the option to expand the search into all collections in Collection Discovery by the hyperlink option for ‘Try searching in all collections’
    * The sub-collection search box is for items in that sub-collection only --- yes, with the same optional workflow to expand by ‘Try searching in all collections’

    Ex Libris advised this the possible options given the search scoping infrastructure.

    I agree that the need for the extra click by initial scoping is a little less than ideal, but we haven't had any comments on this with our 'Search collections' labelling.

  3. 1 vote
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    Could this be managed by making renewable false in the TOU but using the Block Preferences by override setting by role?

  4. 2 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    It this idea was approved, I would like to advocate that it should be opt-in, or the name data should be an addition, rather than a replacement for the IDs.
    I'm aware that some sites may use data such as strings of numbers for IDs. At our site we have Primary IDs which are staff usernames and they are able to be identified without manual crosschecks, so this is not a factor.
    A greater concern though is that names are changeable whereas Primary IDs are not. For example, we may have staff who have changed their names, for reasons such as personal relationships, by personal choice, or to reflect identity.
    This becomes an issue when data displayed is the prior name which may cause distress to individuals as well as confusion for other staff.
    It could be that Ex Libris would update this data retrospectively for name changes, but this would presumably add considerable complexity to the development, such as if the account had been deleted from Alma.
    As such, we would choose not to enable this feature, if indeed it was added as opt-in and would support Ex Libris using Primary ID consistently for the above reasons.

  5. 1 vote
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  6. 57 votes
    4 comments  ·  Primo » Primo VE  ·  Admin →
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    100% support for this submission. As a site using Primo Back Office, I have no idea how I'm meant to transfer all our 7 years of good work in this area to Primo VE when there are such massive limitations.
    And also some frustration that there appears to be an expectation that we should just give up and sacrifice this, and move regardless. Especially when some of this work includes also areas of the record which we cannot touch at all in VE, including normalisation of availability statements and links and facets.
    It simply is not possible with VE development currently, and Ex Libris needs to address this so that we can properly present all our collections.

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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    I’ve been directed here by Ex Libris after putting in documentation feedback that I couldn’t see any information on expectation of a default for ‘Export to Libraries Australia’, which appears to be ‘Don’t Publish’. We want autonomy to be able to decide for ourselves what records are marked automatically to be externally published, and not be forced to have our records marked to publish to OCLC and not to Libraries Australia. MD Editor Templates are hardcoded to this as well. Also, the MARC21 Bibliographic Normalize on Save task options for both OCLC and Libraries Australia do not work (closed Pending Work Plan case from 2018). The only options are trying to catch as many records as you can by import profile management tag settings and endlessly creating sets and running manual jobs. This seems ridiculous for a LMS which purports to support us with the ability to streamline by automating our work. It seems like that’s only true when what we want happens to match what Ex Libris wants.

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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    This request might be better to submit for the Alma Idea Exchange, rather than Primo?

  9. 10 votes
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  10. 19 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    Noting that the gap exists also between Books and Book Chapters where if a Book has the Open Access indicator and included in the facet, this is not inherited by Book Chapters records of this Book, which are still dependent on individual provider to provide this information per record.
    Ex Libris advised this as an enhancement request, and they will not document it.

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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    I can't edit my idea for unknown reasons, so I'll add here adjustment of September 2022 for VE and November 2022 for Primo BO.

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  11. 1 vote
    1 comment  ·  Alma » Link Resolver  ·  Admin →
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    Would you be able to provide some example links from your environment?
    We're working on transitioning from ezproxy to OpenAthens now and this caught our eye for something to be concerned about, but we're a bit confused without seeing practical examples.

  12. 8 votes
    1 comment  ·  Primo » Primo VE  ·  Admin →
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    The 'Collection' facet can be used to do this for full text active collections, although the names may vary slightly from what the patron expects.

    nb I don't understand why this is only requested specifically for Primo VE, which would deliberately exclude Primo customers using Back Office. Of course all Primo customers should benefit from all developments for 'Primo' as a product.

  13. 23 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    My submission is a lot more wordy with a user story, but I think this is the same requested concept that I have entered here: https://ideas.exlibrisgroup.com/forums/308176-primo/suggestions/45235477-add-ability-to-save-a-record-with-a-label-while-in

  14. 4 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    This suggestion is of course also relevant and would be of value for Primo customers, not just Primo VE.

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  15. 12 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    This is of course relevant for Primo customers as well, for returning results from CDI.

  16. 5 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    I agree that this is problematic behaviour. I haven't reported it but in hindsight think I should have given it seems a defect rather than desired intention design. I can't think of any reason why a user cancelling a search , the user continuing in UI to other activities, and then those other activities being disrupted by the search completing regardless would be deliberate. Cancel needs to mean cancel.

  17. 405 votes
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  18. 14 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    While not a complete or very quick solution, there is the option to save to My Favourites to export in greater numbers.
    The official supported limit is 200, but I've exported over 800 at once.
    They can be saved pretty quickly to a label in Favourites for ease of export by changing number of results to 50 and then use the bulk selection option at the top of the results, add label, scroll to bottom, select next page, repeat.
    You'd still need to consider the overall search limit of 2,000 in a blended search, so the query must be very targeted and/or faceted from the outset to be a reasonable number.

  19. 72 votes
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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    There has been some display and defect improvement in November 2022 Primo Release, with partial association to my case 05299251.
    There was a defect fixed where the the email provided was admin@primo.com, instead of being taken from our E-Mail Addresses mapping table.
    And the styling has also been improved.

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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    We are seeing this issue more recently in scenarios where users are logging in, and also when they use the browser back button after routing via silent login through SSO SAML.
    I've opened a case to ask for help, if not with the best case scenario of resolving the error, then at least with improving the terrible dead end error page.
    I've been advised as follows:
    "Product management has indicated in the past that it is considered an enhancement request. The reasoning is that users are not meant to see the page unless there is an actual problem (such as a SAML misconfiguration), in which case the issue itself is addressed rather than the page.
    I understand your situation is a little different, with the page showing up occasionally even though SAML is set up properly. However, not having been able to reproduce this ourselves, I'm afraid we will need a step-by-step scenario representative of a typical use case that can replicate the issue consistently (or at least with high probability) in order to regard this as different from the other cases."
    We can replicate the issue consistently from console by opening from SSOService, which is expected to fail as single use, but there is no sign of why users are sometimes directed to end at this single use 200 and in others they are routed correctly.
    It is frustrating to receive no further support because an issue cannot be replicated every single time by 'natural' use, but can be replicated consistently by console.
    The argument for not fixing the error page to be more meaningful could also be made for any error page ie no-one is "meant" to see an error page.
    Ex Libris should fix so that we may support our users better than this when they do occur.

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    Stacey van Groll commented  · 

    I hope Ex Libris did not suggest that this be posted to Idea Exchange!
    Idea Exchange is for enhancements, not for defects which Ex Libris has not prioritised fixing.

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