Allow patrons to disable FRBR + disable FRBR in advanced search
Our patrons run into a lot of problems caused by FRBR.
– Add a checkmark to allow the patrons to disable FRBR per search, no matter if logged in or not.
(like "Include articles without fulltext")
– Make it a parameter in the patron settings
– Disable FRBR as default in advanced search
This could also be used as a feeble workaround for the missing exact search https://ideas.exlibrisgroup.com/forums/308176-primo/suggestions/18579556-add-a-true-exact-search-to-advanced-search-type
Thank you for posting this idea. We are considering to have a new toggle
""group versions together" where users can choose to if to have search results grouped by versions or turn it off.
Please make the state of the toggle part of the URL, so that we can use it to send precise links and for deep linking.
Thank you :-)
Thank you, Nili, I'm really glad to hear this.
An easy way to achieve this would be:
In advanced search, let the patrons decide before the search (with checkmarks) if they want FRBR and deduplication on or off in the result list.
Seeing that with the August 2023 release, FRBR and deduplication will be deactivated in browse search, gives me hope.
The same should be possible for advanced search.
Ideally with parameters:
- setting per view
- separate settings for FRBR and deduplication
- library decides default
- patrons can override the default settings in their account
> having experienced quite a lot of difficulties both with DeDup and FRBR ...
I agree, also Deduplication on/off should be a setting the patrons can decide.
While I still think
- after advanced search, FRBR should always be deactivated
- the patrons should be able to switch FRBR off
the biggest part of the problem is solved in Primo VE with 'equals exact phrase', since May 2023.
> patron would mistakenly believe that only one match exists
Yes, this is why FRBR Preferred is not the solution.
Thank you for the example, Nancy!
> If the FRBR settings could be easy user-controlled toggles (like "Expand My
> Results" and "Search in Full Text", this would be a great solution.
Yes. The order of those three should be customizable, and the setting for FRBR on/off should be done with the same flexibility as "Search in full text" (which comes with the May 2022 release).
Ideally, the settings could also be saved as preferences in the patron's account, but that could come later.
Nancy Babb commented
Re: FRBR Preferred allowing patrons to get to the title they are looking for with only a few clicks --
Just a quick caveat that this works if there is only a single title that matches the patron's search criteria, but any 2nd, 3rd, etc. matching work would still be lost in the FRBR group. And I worry in that case that the patron would mistakenly believe that only one match exists.
Nancy Babb commented
I've been interested to find some examples of discovery tools that put FRBR options in the hands of the end user. For example, WorldCat Discovery has "Group this search" settings, with option to enable/disable "Group related editions" and "Group variant records." Here's an example and screenshot from my university: https://buffalo.on.worldcat.org/search?queryString=iliad%20lattimore&clusterResults=true&groupVariantRecords=false&changedFacet=scope&scope=sz%3A36346
It would be so exciting and helpful to our researchers if similar controls could be provided in Primo, for the FRBR settings!
In one of our Sandbox test views, I've added an External Search option to "Search without grouping," which sends the terms searched into a near-duplicate view with FRBR suppressed (https://suny-buf-psb.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/search?query=any,contains,hamlet%20olivier&tab=LibraryCatalog&search_scope=MyInstitution&vid=01SUNY_BUF:catalog&lang=en&offset=0) -- but this is not a good solution because it requires the campus to maintain a separate view. But if the FRBR settings could be easy user-controlled toggles (like "Expand My Results" and "Search in Full Text", this would be a great solution.
In the meantime I learned from Nili Natan that (in Primo VE) the setting
is more practical for the patrons than
It allows them to get to the title they are looking for with only a few clicks, with just the _option_ to see the whole FRBR group.
Edit: this is a workaround. The real problem is that with Generic, in the resulting list of FRBR versions, the HIGHEST RANKED record from the results set is NOT shown as the first title.
The wish that the patrons should be able to deactivate FRBR and that FRBR should be deactivated after any Advanced search still stands.
NERS 7227, open for voting now.
> I wonder how to ... name
For FRBR I think "Turn off grouping" would be understandable.
Katharina Wolkwitz commented
having experienced quite a lot of difficulties both with DeDup and FRBR since we've changed over to Primo last summer, I'd really like the option to have a button to switch both or either on or off "online" like any other facet.
That being said, I wonder how to promote, explain and name-tag such buttons for my colleagues and users, so they could understand what they'd do?
I wonder what impact such "buttons" would have on retrieval times?